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Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS)


This section looks at the raging debate between  those who say that we have eternal security and those who say that we are saved by faith alone.  it is a ragng debate that has been going on for quite a while now.  We wade into this debate with some posts that  you will find interesting.  Make up your own mind , Christian, as to who is right.  As with everything we post, don't take our word for anything - run it by the Lord Jesus Christ first and go exactly as He tells you to do.

WARNING!!!


We will warn you that what we are presenting is going against the doctrinal teachings of many denominations.  Many are going to excoriate this site because we are not following their doctrine.  Many times, the people who are going to say we are teaching ' a false gospel' would be the ones that say that they have read the bible from cover to cover multiple times and will claim to be the 'authority' on the bible because they did that.


So, If you think we are full of it, that's fine.  That is expected. 


All we are asking for you to do is to read the content, then  go directly to the Lord Jesus Christ and confirm with HIM what we have been posting.   Confirm with HIM that the things that have been posted are true.   Confirm with HIM that the conclusions are correct.


After you do that, ask Jesus directly what YOU should do, and ask Him to lay out His plan for YOU.  We do not care what you  think about us, Christian, nor do we care what you say about us.  In the grander scheme of  things, it does not matter.  What matters is that we are presenting the gospel  UNFILTERED and not coloured by church doctrine.  What we are presenting affects YOUR salvation, and if you want to gamble with YOUR salvation, that is on you.  You can blow us off if you want to, but like those people who got killed in Texas at a church, you never know when your time will be up.  Hopefully, those people were on the road to salvation, working to get their sin off of their ledger and not just believing that they were saved.


As we always say, and we will repeat here - don't take our word for anything.  ALWAYS confirm what you read and/or hear with the Lord Jesus Christ and do what He tells you to do.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

What is Once Saved, Always Saved, anyway?


This is the prevalent doctrine of the Baptist Church which tells you that from a confession or a prayer to the Lord Jesus Christ,  you are afforded eternal security and you cannot lose it no matter what you do.  There are MILLIONS of people who call themselves a 'Christian' because of this doctrine, and many are walking around thinking that they are saved and will go to the Kingdom of God if they die.


We are here to tell you today that this is one of the biggest and best lies that the devil has ever come up with.


Why do we say that?


It is because the people who believe this are NOT EVEN SAVED and they are on their way to hell on the broad road.  Many people have been taken in by this lie, and it is our goal and mission to get people to wake up from the coma that they are in and get with the Lord Jesus Christ so He can help them.


The glaring flaw in this doctrine is that there is a normal progression that the Lord Jesus Christ follows when a person asks Jesus to be their Lord and Saviour.  In the next few paragraphs, we are going to show that progression so you can read it for yourself.  Take the time to check yourself out and if you have never experienced what we will describe, go to Jesus DIRECTLY and ask Him if you are saved or not. 


Many of you may NOT be saved and NOT KNOW IT.


Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Step #1:

Jesus hears your prayer


When you go to an altar to ask Jesus to be your Lord and Saviour, Jesus will hear YOU through all of the noise in the universe  as you ask Him to be you Lord and Saviour.  Jesus will know who you are; He will know where you are; He will know everything about you, and He will evaluate your prayer.


Why does Jesus do this?


Jesus does this because He is making a decision as to if He wants to be bothered with the person making the prayer or not.  You see, there are many people who are not serious about Jesus and He is going to detect that in a person.  MANY people decide to use Jesus to keep them out of hell, but they really do NOT like Jesus at all.  If that person making the prayer is NOT serious,  Jesus is not going to answer their prayer.  There are a lot of people who think Jesus is some sort of clown or a Santa Claus who is going to serve the person making the prayer.


This is the arrogance and the error of the Once Saved, Always Saved  doctrine.  Many people will demand that Jesus give them 'their' eternal security that He promised them, when in fact Jesus NEVER promises eternal security at all if you are NOT a follower or Disciple of His. 


If you are not a Disciple of Jesus or an accepted follower of Jesus, you get NOTHING.


Nada.


Zilch.


Nuttin'.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Step 2:

Jesus evaluates your prayer and YOU and decides

if He will accept you as a Disciple of Christ

or a follower of Christ


That's right - Jesus will decide of He will accept YOU.  You may have accepted Christ, but Jesus has to accept you as a Disciple of Christ or a follower of Christ before he does anything else.


This is where the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine is in serious error.


You see, the PASTOR of the Once Saved, Always Saved church declares a person saved and NOT the Lord Jesus Christ, and many of you reading this article are NOT EVEN SAVED because your PASTOR said you were saved.  This is why we exhort you to talk to Jesus DIRECTLY and CONFIRM your salvation with Jesus personally.


If you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you have NEVER been accepted by the Lord Jesus Christ.  This means:


  • All of the promises in the Bible that you see concerning salvation DO NOT APPLY TO YOU;
  • All of the benefits of being a follower of Christ or a Disciple of Christ DO NOT APPLY TO YOU;
  • All of the promises that the Once Saved, Always Saved crowd tout and quote DO NOT APPLY TO YOU;
  • You are NOT eligible for the Kingdom of God because you have not been accepted by Jesus.


These churches that push this Once Saved, Always Saved lie will NOT tell you this because that will mean that a potential 'giving unit' will walk out of the door, and they don't want that.  They want you to be a part of their church, and there is nothing wrong with that;  the problem is that the pastor should be telling the person wanting to be saved to WAIT for Jesus to send confirmation that the person has been accepted by Him.  But no, the Once Saved, Always Saved pastor will declare a person saved so that person will continue to come to their church.


So, now you have MILLIONS of people who proudly claim that they are Calvinists or Once Saved, Always Saved and that they are going to the Kingdom of God when they are NOT EVEN SAVED.  They go through their lives thinking that they have 'made it', and they are not only unprepared, they are NOT even a part of the Body of Christ. 


If you want proof, look at the parable of the vine, where the branches are grafted onto the vine.  It is only when the branches are accepted by the vine and are grafted on by the husbandman (who is the Lord of Hosts, Jesus Father) is that branch a true part of the vine.


Jesus has to accept you as a Disciple or a follower of Christ FIRST before you are a part of the Body of Christ.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

IF Jesus does NOT accept you as a follower of Christ or a Disicple of Christ, you can always ask Him why


The church world would have you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ will AUTOMATICALLY accept you as a follower of Christ or a Disciple of Christ, and this is not the case.  So the question is this - why would Jesus  reject a person if they are asking to be saved?


The answer is really pretty simple - the person asking to be saved has not come to Jesus correctly.  They have a hidden agenda, and they are not sincere or truthful.  Jesus only accepts those people to be Disciples or followers of Christ that are sincere about wanting to serve Him and be guided and taught by Him and the Holy Ghost.  There are many people whose hearts are NOT sincere, and Jesus weeds out those people and sends them away.  Now, if those whom He has rejected continue on with Jesus, and really ask Him sincerely to be a Disciple or a follower, then He MAY relent and accept those people WHEN THEY COME TO JESUS CORRECTLY.


So here is the thing - most people who ask Jesus to accept them as their Saviour if they are Once Saved, Always Saved NEVER get a confirmation from Jesus that they have been accepted by Jesus because the doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved will declare you 'saved' no mastter what.


This is WRONG, and that doctrine is a lie, and Jesus is not going to accept any people who are trying to lie their way into the Kindom of God, wittingly or unwittingly.  


If Jesus did accept the Once Saved, Always Saved crowd as followers or Disciples, then He would be complicit or in agreement with a lie, and Jesus is NOT going to do that.  This is why you will see in all of our articles and videos where we say that if a person is Once Saved, Always Saved, they are NOT EVEN SAVED and this is the reason why.

This site presents very dense reading material


We offer a lot of information on this site.  This is very dense reading material, meaning that you have to ingest and then mull and ponder over what is being presented.  You will not get all of it in one pass.  You have to THINK, Christian, and then you will be able to go directly to The Lord Jesus Christ to ask intelligent questions on what you have read.  Have HIM confirm what you are reading; start a dialogue with The Lord Jesus Christ and continue to learn from Him what He wants for you to learn.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Step 3:

If Jesus accepts you as a Disciple of Christ or a follower of Christ, Jesus sends the Holy Ghost to you


If Jesus accepts you as a follower of Christ, He will CONFIRM that decision by sending the Holy Ghost to you.  This decision is NOT always automatic; sometimes Jesus will take a few days to make a final decision.  This is why we say that those people who follow the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine are NOT SAVED.  They THINK they are saved, but they are not.  Their church is NOT telling them that they have to be accepted by Jesus before they are saved.


So once Jesus has accepted you, He will send you the Holy Ghost who will come to you.  You will NEVER forget the Holy Ghost when He comes toyou after being sent by Jesus because He is like a mighty rushing wind.  So let's see what the Bible says about Jesus sending the Holy Ghost to you.  As you can clearly see in scripture, Jesus tells His disciples that He is not going to leave them comfortless.  We see in scripture where Jesus tells them that HE - Jesus - is sending to Holy Ghost to them to help them, guide them,  nurture them, and comfort them in their walk as Disciples of Jesus:


John 14:26 - But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


John 15:26 - But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:


John 16:7 - Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.


As you can CLEARLY see, the Lord Jesus Christ sends the Holy Ghost to His disciples and followers.  To further bolster the point, there is scripture that shows that the Holy Ghost is the earnest, or guarantee of YOUR salvation.  That means you are NOT saved until you are filled with the Holy Ghost, and Jesus ONLY sends the Holy  Ghost to His Disciples and followers.  Here is the scripture that shows that the Holy Ghost is the earnest of salvation:


2 Corinthians 1:19-22 - For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea. For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.  Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;  Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.


2 Corinthians 5:5 - Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.


Ephesians 1:13-14 - In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.


As you can plainly see in scripture, Jesus will confirm your acceptance as a Disicple of Christ or a follower of Christ with the Holy Ghost, who is the guarantee of your salvation. 


So why is this a mystery to most people who go to church?


The Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine turns its back on the Holy Ghost via the religious spirit, which is from the devil.  Don't believe what we are saying here, confirm what we have said with the Lord Jesus Christ YOURSELF.  Your church is not telling you that because the Holy Ghost does NOT fit into their doctrine, so to make up for that, the churches tell you that 'you already got the Holy Ghost when you were saved' (which is not true, as we just established that Jesus has to SEND you the Holy Ghost.  refer to the scripture above) or they will tell you that 'The Holy Ghost is NOT for today'.


The Holy Ghost absolutely IS for today and He is a very important part of YOUR salvation, as you will see.


Most of the Once Saved, Always Saved pastors are NOT EVEN SAVED themselves because they discount the Holy Ghost and grieve Him terribly.  Know that you CANNOT be 'saved' if you are NOT filled with the Holy Ghost.  The Holy Ghost is REQUIRED of all Disciples and followers of Christ to be able to get into the Kingdom of God.  In other words, you CANNOT get into the Kingdom of God WITHOUT the Holy Ghost.


So how does the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine get rid of the Holy Ghost 'problem'?


It doesn't.


This is why Once Saved, Always Saved is a lie.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Step 4:

Once the Holy Ghost gets to you, He will take you into the wilderness and then start to clean you up


When the Holy Ghost gets to you, you will NEVER forget the Holy Ghost's entrance.  The Bible shows the Holy Ghost as being like a mighty wind, as you can see here:


Acts 2:2-4 - And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.  And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.  And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


If this has NEVER happened to you, then we suggest that you get with Jesus IMMEDIATELY and confirm your salvation.  Many of you are going to be very surprised that you are NOT saved even though your pastor told you that you WERE saved, and now would be the time to talk to Jesus Directly and get this taken care of.


Once the Holy Ghost arrives, He is going to pull you aside, sit you down, and do the following:


  • The Holy Ghost is going to tell you who He is.
  • The Holy Ghost will tell youthat He is NOT going to contend with you.
  • The Holy Ghost will tell you that you will do EXACTLY as He says.
  • The Holy Ghost will tell you that if you don't obey Him, He is going to withdraw from you.
  • The Holy Ghost will tell you that He will turn you over to Jesus and you get to deal with an angry Jesus.


After He tells you all of that, He will get you to repent of all of the heinous things you have done in your life.  By repenting of the things you have done, you remove the authority of the devil, and now the devil cannot lord the sin you did over you.  You are free of that sin, as the Holy Ghost will grant you repentance for those sins.


Then the Holy Ghost will take you into the wilderness - so it is just you and Him - and He is going to being the process of cleaning you up.  The world is a very nasty and dirty place, and the Lord Jesus Christ sends the Holy Ghost to clean you up so you are suitable for Jesus.  


This is where the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine falls on its face, as it will NOT prepare you for the Kingdom of God.  As you can clearly see, the Holy Ghost comes and cleans you up; the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine does not.  When you are being judged, if you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you are NASTY.  You stink, and you are unfit for the Kingdom of God and you will NEVER enter the Kingdom of God stinking like you do.


How do you stink?


  • You have demons in you;
  • You are a slave to the sodomite spirit, as the devil has you bound with fetishes and sexual foibles;
  • You are indwelled with the sodomite spirit from all ofthe porn you was watching;
  • You have the sodomite spirit because of all of the fornication and illicit sexual activites you performed;
  • You are unclean because of the sodomite behaviours that you have done;
  • You are full of demons that the sodomite spirit invited into you;
  • and you are NOT filled with the Holy Ghost.


This is the person who is Once Saved, Always Saved, and with all of that stink of the world, that person is NOT going to make into the Kingdom of God.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Step 5:

The Holy Ghost is the one that removes

the old adamic nature and puts in the nature of Christ


This is the most important part of the salvation process that the churches are not telling the people who go to church.  You need to be sanctified unto the Lord, and as a part of the sanctification process, the Holy Ghost will remove the old adamic nature and replace the old nature with the nature of the Lord Jesus Christ.  We see that this is what is exhorted in the Bible:


2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


Ephesians 4:22-24 - That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;  And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.


How do you think all things become new?  It is the Holy Ghost that will make all things new in you, as He pulls out that old stinking adamic nature in you.  The Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine does NOTHING, and when you are being judged by Jesus with the Old Adamic Nature in you, you are going to be rejected because the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT going to let the old Adamic nature back into the Kingdom of God.


When you think about it, why would He want to let that stinking adamic nasture back in to His Kingdom?


It was Jesus that kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden, so if He let the old adamic nature back into the Kingdom of God, Jesus would be stupid.  Jesus is not stupid; no one with and adamic nature is getting back into the Kingdom of God (Jesus will NOT allow that), and only those who are Disciples of Christ or followers of Christ are eligible to get into the Kingdom of God.


If you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you are:


  • NOT a Disciple of Christ;
  • NOT a follower of Christ;
  • NOT accepted by Jesus;
  • NOT cleaned up by the Holy Ghost;
  • NOT filled with the Holy Ghost;
  • NOT eligible for the Kingdom of God;
  • NOT indwelled with Jesus' spirit.


IN other words, you are damned.

Step 6:

You are put on the path to salvation which will sanctify you unto the Lord Jesus Christ  that you must endure until the end 


Once you have been cleaned up, you are then put on the road to salvation by the Holy Ghost that will walk WITH you on your journey to the Kingdom of God, as He works with you to get rid of all of the defiling elements you have picked up from the world.  This is the time when you start to straighten out and walk as Jesus wants you to walk.  This is the point where you are getting rod of all of the demons in you; this is the point where you are not sinning and you are doing as the Lord Jesus Christ wants you to do.  You are on the path to salvation that you must endure until the end, and it is then when you can be saved.


The Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine has you do NOTHING, and it says that you will be able to get into the Kingdom of God without having to do all of the things that the Bible says, namely endure until the end.


It is at this point where you begin to like talking to Jesus and the Holy Ghost, and you build a relationship with them by talking with them and getting guidance and direction from them both.


In the video below, we will explain a little more about the oysterbed analogy so youwill be able to see what the Lord Jesus CHrist is doing for real.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE:

The REAL way Jesus saves people

Things that make you say 'Hmmm...'


A lot of the topics covered on this website are things that are not normally covered in church.  Sometimes, you have to just say 'hmmm...' to some of the topics that we are visiting.  As with anything you see on this site, you should take it to the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and confer with Him about all that you are reading.  Some of the the solutions that you will see are unorthodox, but they are effective.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

Step 7:

Judgment by Jesus


When you die, you are going to be judged by Jesus.  Judgment is a very IMPORTANT event, as this is where you meet your maker and He will judge you on all of your actions and all of what you have said in your life.  


For most people, judgment is a very unnerving event, but if you are talking with the Lord Jesus Christ during your salvation and sanctification phases of your time on earth, you should be pretty sure you KNOW what is coming.  This is why talking to Jesus DIRECTLY is so important, but many churches today frown upon this practice as they want you to follow their doctrines and practices and forget about the Lord Jesus Crist and what HE wants.


If you are a Once Saved, Always Saved person, you should be VERY apprehensive about judgment because the Lord Jesus Christ is going to be looking for the following things in you:


  • Jesus is going to look and see what spirit you are of.  He is going to see if you are filled with the Holy Ghost or not.  In MANY cases, the Lord Jesus Christ will see the religious spirit, as these people would have gotten this from their churches.  He will see the Sodomite spirit in the majority of cases, as 92% of the entire world has been infused with this sodomite spirit.  He will see demons who are imbedded in that person that they have picked up during their lifetime.  If Jesus does NOT see the earnest of the Holy Ghost in a person ,that person is damned becase Jesus is NOT going to let that person into the Kingdom of God.  If you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you will NOT be filled with the Holy Ghost and this is what will damn you from entering into the Kingdom of God, as NO ONE with the wrong spirit will be allowed to enter.


  • As a righteous judge, Jesus is going to judge your life that you lived on earth.  Now, if a person is Once Saved, Always saved, Jesus is going to see this in the person because they are unprepared, nasty, and they have the wrong nature in them.  The Once Saved, Always Saved people will still have the old adamic nature, and as we know, Jesus kicked out of the Garden of Eden Adam and Eve because of their rebellion against Him.  Do you really think that the Lord is going to allow that filth back into the Kingdom of God?  If you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you do NOT have the nature of Christ becausde it was NEVER put into you.  The Holy Ghost is the one that will remove the old adamic nature and put in the nature of Christ in you during the sanctification phase of you walk on earth.  If this is missing, and it is if you are Once Saved, Always Saved, you are NOT going to be able to get into the Kingdom of God.


  • Jesus is going to judge you on how you dealt with or walked with the Holy Ghost.  If you are Once Saved, Always Saved, Jesus is NOT going to be too happy with you because the doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved turns its back on the Holy Ghost, and grieves Him terribly.  Jesus is NOT going to let you into the Kingdom of God if you are treating the HJoly Ghost like He is a garment or a shoe or something.  The Holy Ghost is Holy, and by NOT heeding the Holy Ghost, Jesus is NOT going to let you into His Kingdom.  What most Once Saved, Always Saved people do not realize (or do not want to realize) is that the Holy Ghost is one of the most important people they need to deal with, and because they have listened to this Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine and followed this doctrine that HATES Jesus, they are not prepared, they are not sanctified, they are not cleaned up, they are not filled with the Holy Ghost, and they will not being able to enter the Kingdom of God.


  • Jesus is then going to look and see if there is any sin on you or in you.  This is the part that is going to damn many, because if they are Once Saved, Always Saved, they will have a LOT of sin on them.  They would not have gotten rid of that sin through repentance because that religious spirit in them would have forbade them to speak to Jesus Directly to get the repentance that they would have needed to get the sin off of them.  By turning their back on the Holy Ghost, they would not have been cleaned up, and part of the cleanup of people is being pulled into the wilderness by the Holy Ghost to get them to repent of all of the things that they did that was sin.  The Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine does NOTHING to clear your ledger of sin, and this is going to damn the people who follow the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine.  Jesus is NOT going to allow anyone who has sin on them to enter into His Kingdom.


This is a small snippet of what Jesus is going to look for when a person is being judged, so it would make sense for those who are reading this article to get with Jesus by asking Him directly if they are going to make it or not.   You can do this NOW by just asking Jesus if you are going to be saved.  Talking with Jesus directly will help you, so push past that stupid religious spirt that is telling you 'NO!!" and ask Jesus DIRECTLY about YOUR situation. 


If you don't ask Jesus about your salvation now, then when you are judged, Jesus is going to ask the person standing before Him WHY they never reached out to Him and talked to Him about their situation.  This is the sad part about all of this, as the Lord Jesus Christ will ask the person being judged the following questions :


(Jesus speaking) Why didn't you talk to me?  Why didn't you seek me out when you had problems or issues?  I could have helped you through all of that so you would be right with me.  Why didn't you talk to me so I could have shown you what you needed to know?  I cannot help you now because it is too late.  I am not going to let you into my Kingdon because you are not prepared, you are unclean, you are full of unclean spirits and demons, and you NEVER talked to me.  I waited for you to come to me and you never did.  I NEVER accepted you as my disciple or my follower, so therefore, I am not your God.  Ther devil is your god because you have been following him and doing all of the things that he wanted you to do.  So, I am going to send you to him andf you can spend your eternity with your god.  Away from me, you worker of iniquity, I NEVER knew you.


Most of the Once Saved, Always Saved people will hear this because they have NEVER talked to Jesus after their confession because they were following CHURCH DOCTRINE and NOT the Lord Jesus Christ.  How many BILLIONS of people are in hell today because of this doctrine that was cooked up by the devil?


This narrative has been presented to you in this manner because there are millions of people that are on their way to hell TODAY because of this Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine.  Our goal is to get the people who are Once Saved Always Saved to think for a moment and CONFIRM that they are TRULY saved NOW while there is still time. 


We NEVER want you to believe a thing we have posted here; you to check out what we are saying by going to Jesus directly and to ask Him about YOUR situation so you can be sure YOU will make it into the Kingdom of God. Ask Jesus Directly if you are going to make it in or not.  This is the time for you to not just blindly follow some doctrine, but for you to check things out for yourself.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

Your salvation in Christ is YOUR responsibility


People never really think about judgment until it is too late (if they are in a life-threatening situation) or when they get older and they have lived their lives in this world.  Judgment is a very important event that happens because this will determine where you will be in eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ.


As you have been looking at this process that Jesus uses to save people, there are a lot of people who blow this off as inconsequential.  Many of the Once Saved, Always Saved people do this, and they are shocked when they are judged and sent to hell because they squandered their time on earth listening to doctrines that are damning them.  We can see how this is the case, as many people will TRUST their pastor or their church with their salvation, as many people figure that the pastor is learned and knows what he is talking about, and the church is honourable in their mission to guide people to Jesus Christ,


That MAY have been the case in the past, but it is not today.  Today, we have a lot of pastors who could care less about your spiritual health or where your soul goes after death.  Many pastors are in this 'game' for the money, and they are using the church and the name of Jesus Christ to enrich themselves in a selfish quest for riches and goods.


We took the time to outline what REALLY happens when Jesus saves someone because you are not going to get this from your churches as they are corrupt.  Many churches are pushing their denominational doctrines and are NOT teaching about the Lord Jesus Christ or making the church a House of Prayer like it should be.


Although we cannot definitively say that your case will be exactly as we have outlined, we CAN say that this is the process that Jesus follows to save people.  If you are NOT filled with the Holy Ghost, you CANNOT make it into the Kingdom of God.


Period.


If any church or pastor tells you otherwise, then you need to confirm YOUR salvation for YOU and you can ALWAYS go DIRECTLY to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask Him if you are saved or not.  This is done through a simple prayer that looks like this:


"Jesus, Am I saved?"


THAT is your prayer.  Jesus is going to answer you and tell you YES or NO.  From that point forward, you can then talk with Jesus and work out YOUR salvation for you, as your salvation is YOUR responsibility.


Your salvation in Christ is YOUR responsibility:

The 7 steps of salvation

In this section,  we have posted our 7 part series on Salvation.  Take some time to go through all of the parts, and then ASK JESUS directly what this means to you.  Apply what you need to your life, and work with Jesus to work out your salvation with fear and tembling.  This is your time to work things out; talk to Jesus and He will work with you.  Jesus wants to know you PERSONALLY, and this is a good way to get to know Jesus intimately.  Many in the Once Saved, Always Saved crowd don't even talk to Jesus, and then expect Jesus to just 'let them into His home' with no validation, no verification, and all on a 'confession' made years ago.


No.


Jesus doesNOT work like that.  In  scripture, Jesus have in there TWICE the following passage:


Many are called, but FEW are chosen.


Few are chosen because they don't take the time to learn of the one who is the Lord and Saviour, and arrogantly think that Jesus is going to serve them and let them into His house all nasty, stinking, smelly, with the wrong spirit, and Jesus is going to just 'take it'.


NO.


Jesus is NOT some sort of chump.  He is the Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, and if you try to punk Jesus, He is going to walk away from you and you will be damned.


Count on that.


Learn the procedure of salvation as JESUS has made it, and not what some church which makes you follow, which is a stupid doctrine that the devil cooked up.  Talk to Jesus and walk with Jesus every step of the way.


Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

So what have we learned

about Once Saved, Always Saved?


By now, you have enough information to be able to make a decision as to if you are going to follow or continue to follow the doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved or if you are going to follow the Lord Jesus Christ.  Know that by following the Once Saved, Always Saved Doctrine, that doctrine is YOUR GOD and YOU will be judged on whom you follow.


Just so you know, we are going to take a look at the word 'follow' and define it.  Here is the definition:

Now that you have read through all of the definitions, you can see that by following someone or something, you give your allegiance to that person or entity that you are following.  This is why people who are Once Saved, Always Saved are damned by this doctrine.  Although the churches that push this doctrine tell you that this doctrine is 'Of the Lord', it is NOT.  You are making that doctrine your god and you are turning AWAY from the Lord Jesus Christ because you are giving your allegiance to the DOCTRINE and NOT the Lord Jesus Christ.


So how can we say that?


We can say that because the Bible does NOT support the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine, no matter what the pastor says.  You CANNOT discount the fact that the Holy Ghost is an intregal part of salvation, and the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine discounts and dismisses the Holy Ghost entirely.  No Baptist Pastor is going to go anywhere near trying to explain the Holy Ghost because they CANNOT 'fit' the Holy Ghost into their Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine.  They feed you carefully selected scripture(s) to make you believe that the Lord is behind the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine.


For example, this doctrine tells you that you CANNOT lose your salvation no matter what because you have eternal security.  However, if you look at the saga of Saul, the first king of Israel, you can see not only did Saul lose his salvation, the Lord of Hosts made sure Saul was damned by sending Him an evil spirit to trouble him.  Confront a Baptist Pastor and see what He says to you.  The reason why this is the case is because of this scripture:


1 Samuel 16:14-15 - But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.  And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.


Even the advisors of Saul saw that the evil spirit was sent from the Lord of Hosts HIMSELF.  So, why did the Lord of Hosts PERSONALLY send the evil spirit?


It was done to make sure that Saul was damned.  This dovetails on what is given to us in scripture where the Lord Himself sends a a strong delusion to make sure people are damned, as it shows in scripture here:


2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 - And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


This is when a person is damned and the Lord walks away from them, as they are given OVER to their desires:


Romans 1:28-32 - And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


The Lord Jesus Christ is now reaching out to the Once Saved, Always Saved people and He is exhorting them to come to HIM and CONFIRM their salvation.  We put up these scriptures for a reason; once the Lord Jesus Christ walks away from those who vehemently believe that Once Saved, Always Saved will get them into the Kingdom of God, Jesus is going to turn these people OVER to their desires, and they will be damned because they will not be ready or prepared for the Kingdom of God.


Take these articles and videos as a warning and an exhortation because once Jesus moves, those who are still in this doctrine will be damed BY this doctrine.  Jesus is sending people like us to explain and exhort you to get to Jesus TODAY and ask Him to confirm your salvation NOW as TOMORROW may be too late!!  Like the 5 wise virgins and the 5 foolish virgins, NOW is the time to get your oil and your lamps trimmed because when Jesus moves, you will be given OVER to your delusion of Once Saved Always Saved and you CANNOT be saved at all.


Finally, don't believe a WORD that we have posted here.  Go to Jesus DIRECTLY and ask Him if what we have posted is true or not, and then CONFIRM YOUR salvation with the Lord Jesus Christ PERSONALLY.  Many of you who are Once Saved, Always Saved are going to find out that YOU ARE NOT EVEN SAVED and that doctrine is a lie from the pit of hell itself.  Now that you have found out, you can then ask Jesus what you need to do to be saved and then follow His direction.


Take this time to then build a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, and He will begin to open up to you and provide you with things that only the Disciples of Christ or followers of Christ will be privvy to.  There is a whole world of things that Jesus will give you and have you do in His name (better stated, under His authority) that will make following some stupid doctrine that John Calvin made up under the inspiration of the devil seem like childs play.

We are NOT

'Politically Correct' on this site


One of the  things that people will do will be to 'soften' their words so they will not offend others.  While this is admirable, and courteous,  the extent of 'not hurting anyone's feelings' has gone too far.   Now we should 'tolerate' or we should 'be nice'.        No, Christian, when we are proclaiming the Gospel, we are to be blunt and let it ALL hang out;  Let the chips fall where they may.  If the hearer is offended, that is NOT our problem, as it is the hearer's responsibility to check out everything they have heard proclaimed with the Lord Jesus Christ personally to see if it is true or not.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

You are a SODOMITE

if you are Once Saved, Always Saved

and here is why


Simply put, if a person is against Jesus, they are a sodomite.  How is that the case?  It is because if a person is against Jesus, then they are under the dominion of the devil, and if they are under the dominion of the devil, they are sodomites, as the devil is the KING of the Sodomites.


Many of you are now scratching your head trying to figure out why we are saying that those who are Once Saved, Always Saved are sodomites.  These people are NOT gay, so how are these people sodomites? 


Here are the reasons why people who are Once Saved, Always saved are sodomites:


  • If a person is antichrist - or against Christ - they are sodomites, as they will do what the devil has given them to do.  In our studies of the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine, we have found that this doctrine is against the Lord Jesus Christ.  How is that the case? it is because the doctrines of Once Saved Always  saved lead people AWAY from the Lord Jesus Christ, and this doctrine is being carried by a religious spirit that HATES the Lord Jesus Christ.  If you look at the doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved closely, it is getting people to use Jesus to stay out of hell, but in the end, Jesus is going to send each and every Once Saved, Always Saved person to hell anyway.  Why? they have the WRONG SPIRIT and no other spirit than the Holy Ghost will ever make it into the Kingdom of God, as the Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT of the Kingdom of God.


  • As a Once Saved Always Saved person, that person will cling onto the part where they have Eternal Security and they cannot lose it, and it will give those people license to do whatever they want to do, which makes them sodomites.  How is this the case?  These people will do all sorts of debase things, thinking that they will still get into the Kingdom of God.  They will imbibe in sodomite behaviours such as oral sex and anal sex, which make the people sodomites in the Lord Jesus Christ's eyes,  and they will think that this is OK.  Many will perform these behaviours in their marriage beds and think that it is OK because their marriage beds, in their minds, are NOT defiled.  Sodomite behaviours are NOT tolerated at all by the Lord Jesus Christ and anyone who performs ANY sodomite behavior is a sodomite, no matter what they think and they  will be treated as sodomites by the Lord Jesus Christ when they are judged by Him (unless the people who act like sodomites repent of their deeds beforehand).


  • A Once Saved, Always Saved person may have performed sodomite behaviours in the past, but they may have 'cleaned themselves up' and are not doing those things anymore.  What these people do not realize is that because they performed sodomite behaviours or looked at a LOT of porn, they have the sodomite spirit in them that will go dormant to be used when the  devil decides to yoke them back to him.  This is why you see a woman or a man who were sexual FREAKS in the past that seem to have cleaned up their act, but at some point, the devil will get them right back into the sexual behaviours they did in the past (this will explain why so many teachers in schools are preying on their students that nobody can explain). It will take the Lord Jesus Christ AND the Holy Ghost working together with that person to face that sodomite spirit and break the bonds of that spirit so it can be cast out.  If a person was a sodomite and imbibed in sodomite behaviours, they are bound by the devil and they CANNOT get out of those bonds and ties by themselves or under their own willpower.  That person will need to ask the Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost or the Lord of Hosts to help them break the ties and the bonds the devil has on that person.  Once Saved, Always Saved does NOTHING to help break any bonds or ties of the devil; all it does, in an arrogant manner, is to demand Eternal Security from Jesus when that person is not in any position to demand ANYTHING from Jesus.


  • A Once Saved, Always Saved person CAN he filled with the Sodomite Spirit, the Religious Spirit AND the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine at the same time.  Why is this the case?  It is because the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine, the sodomite Spirit and the religious spirit all come from the same source - the devil.  They all coexist nicely to make sure that the person following the Once Saved,  Alwaysd Saved doctrine is damned, and none of these things will be accepted by Jesus when a person is judged.


Take a look at the videos  concerning this subject that have been added below.  This will let you know that the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine is of the devil because it can coexist with other defiling spirits and elements that the devil puts on people.  As always, take whatever questions you may have to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask Him DIRECTLY if what we have posted is true or not.  Do NOT believe a thing we are saying without checking that out for yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

If you are Once Saved, Always Saved,

you are using this doctrine to try and PUNK Jesus 

into letting you into His Kingdom


This is the thing that you can see when you look at a person who is Once Saved, Always Saved.  It is pretty obvious from the doctrine that these people are following that they HATE the Lord Jesus Christ, and they are trying to 'slide into' the Kingdom of God.


DO you REALLY think that Jesus is going to give the Once Saved, Always Saved people a pass?


This is exactly what these people think.


You see, many people who are Once Saved, Always Saved don't like Jesus at all, and they think that they can use Jesus to get into the Kingdom of God and then live like kings.  Didn't it say in the Bible that there are many mansions in the Kingdom of God?  If you forgot, here is the scripture:


John 14:1-4 - Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.  In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.  And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.


Of course Jesus is talking about bringing HIs people ONLY -  the Disciples and the followers of Christ - with Him into His Kingdom, but look at the mind of the person who is Once Saved, Always Saved.  The person who is Once Saved, Always Saved could care less about Jesus;  they are looking to get into the mansions that are in Heaven so they can 'live large'.


  • They think that if they 'just confess' like the Baptist pastors and churches are telling them, they can get into the Kingdom of God with just a confession and they will get a mansion to live in, and Jesus is going to give it to them.


  • They think that they are owed that mansion and eternal security through a confession.


  • They think that Jesus is going to accept everyone who 'makes a confession'.


The Once Saved, Always Saved person is an arrogant person, and they think that Jesus is a pushover and a chump that will let them in as they demand they get their eternal security.  How many people are in hell TODAY because they played Jesus cheap?  How many people in hell today are angry at their pastor and/or churches because they were told that this is the way in?


In the video below, we show how the people are thinking that they are going to get one over on Jesus, and we expose this type of thinking that many of the Once Saved, Always Saved people are using to justify their way into the Kingdom of God.


This video is an eye-opener, as many are going to try these tactics and they are going to turned away BY Jesus for trying to trick and slick their way into the Kingdom of God.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

We look at Once Saved, Always  Saved proof texts to see if what is being told is true


In this section, we took some proof texts and we analyzed them to see if the proof text will confirm that the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine is true or not.  We will let you make your own decisions, but you will be surprised by what we found in the proof texts that have been analyzed.  There are 4 videos that go through 4 proof texts and then we give our conclusions.  Take a look at these videos and then ask Jesus to confirm what we have come up with.

Once Saved, Always Saved is demonic and a LIE

We take a look at a sampling of the people

who are Perpetrating the Once Saved,

Always Saved Doctrine


In this section, we picked two popular pastors on the internet who state emphatically that they are Once Saved, Always Saved and applied what we have learned in this Once Saved, Always Saved study.  The conclusions that we have come up are interesting, but NOT what you would think. 


So why are these people  perpetrating the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine?  


In a nutshell, if you don't want to look at the videos below, we believe that the people who perpetrate the Once Saved, Always Saved doctrine are SLAVES to that doctrine, and this is true especially for the two pastors we looked at.  That doctrine is their god, and because that doctrine is what they believe, we do not think that they are NOT going to talk with the Lord Jesus Christ at all because they are convinced they are right and everyone else is wrong.  We admonished both pastors to go to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask Him to assess their ministries and then to do as Jesus says.


As with everything that you read on this website, believe NOTHING that we have posted; run EVERYTHING by the Lord Jesus Christ and CONFIRM what we have posted and continue the conversation with the Lord Jesus Christ to make sure YOUR election is sure.  time is short, and NOW is the time to get right with the Lord Jesus Christ, even if you have the wrong doctrine.  Jesus will set you straight if you are obedient to what He tells you to do.

Why are you shocked, Christian?


We know you have never seen or heard the things we have posted before because your church will NOT teach you or show you these things. So, just to shake things up, here is another thing that will shock you:


Don't believe a word of what has been posted. 

Not one word of it.


Use this as an opportunity to take what you have seen and ask Jesus Directly:


"Is what I have just seen true?"


Verify everything for yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ DIRECTLY and check out every word you hear or read to see if what we have said is true.  Ask Jesus YOURSELF to explain things to you that you do not understand.  It is YOUR responsibility to do this so you can be counted worthy by Jesus.

As always, take NOTHING that you have seen here on this site as the truth.  It is YOUR responsibility to study and check out everything that you see and hear, and you have an advocate in the Lord Jesus Christ who will help you if you would just ask Him. 


Take this upon yourself, Christian, as YOU need to get YOUR Bible, YOUR concordance, YOUR dictionary, YOUR pens/pencils,YOUR notepad and then YOU need to seek out the Lord Jesus Christ and ask Him to help YOU so YOU can make it into His Kingdom, since it will be YOU standing alone in front of Jesus when YOU are being judged. 


It is YOUR responsibility to make sure YOU are in the faith and that YOU have completed YOUR sanctification during the sanctification process and YOU have gotten YOUR forgiveness and YOU have repented of all of YOUR sins before YOU are judged by Jesus. 


Scripture tells us that hell will enlarge itself to accommodate all of the people who will be sent there because they refuse to seek out Jesus, as you can see in scripture here:


Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.


Take this as a warning, Christian, as the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT desperate for people, as there were only 8 people who got on the ark before the flood, and only 2 people from the Hebrews from Egypt made it into the Promised Land.  Be wise, and stay IN Jesus so you are not lost.


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